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« Reply #36 on: May 10, 2007, 04:38:19 AM »

smoke in coffeshop is wrong, smoke in pub also wrong.. now smoke in own house also wrong..

expecting ppl to look out for your clothes first before they smoke, expecting ppl to cater to your needs.. why din reflect abit if u are too "fault finding"?... smoking from 2 floor below u also not happy..

lasttime govt nvr gei-si draw no-smoking zone and hyped no smoking campaign, would singaporean become so intolerant as it was now?

if want to be fault finding, can we complaint that when we hanging our clothes out, and 2 floors below auntie cooking dinner frying fish and oily smell flow upwards? can we go her do and fart at her, and ask her not to cook? can we make noise to govt and let them make law for NO cooking zone in HDB Kitchen?

c'mon la... if so intolerant to others need, go live in surburb where u can face the green green trees day after day..

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we pay so much $$$$ to smoke, end up we cant smoke freely.
car kill so many ppl on the road, so must we stop ppl to drive car???
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« Reply #37 on: May 10, 2007, 09:11:47 AM »

smoke in coffeshop is wrong, smoke in pub also wrong.. now smoke in own house also wrong..

expecting ppl to look out for your clothes first before they smoke, expecting ppl to cater to your needs.. why din reflect abit if u are too "fault finding"?... smoking from 2 floor below u also not happy..

lasttime govt nvr gei-si draw no-smoking zone and hyped no smoking campaign, would singaporean become so intolerant as it was now?

if want to be fault finding, can we complaint that when we hanging our clothes out, and 2 floors below auntie cooking dinner frying fish and oily smell flow upwards? can we go her do and fart at her, and ask her not to cook? can we make noise to govt and let them make law for NO cooking zone in HDB Kitchen?

c'mon la... if so intolerant to others need, go live in surburb where u can face the green green trees day after day..

Please take no offense:
Sad to say, smoking is not a necessity unlike eating and driving to work. Except the latter (driving) is slowly killing the environment and smoking the end-user. It is not that we (non-smokers) are intolerance of smokers, but how does smoking in one's home, but exhaling out of the flat into a common airspace shared by many, not irritate others. In a nutshell, it is not necessary to smoke to hold a job, own a flat or etc. Smoking is a vice that is more of a bad personal choice that is detrimental to the smoker's health. Thus  sharing cigarette smoke is more of an unwanted intrusion into a non-smoker's personal airspace.

As for car fatal accidents, like most other transportation systems, accidents resulting in death is part and parcel of it. Banning something that is the basic foundation of day to day living would not make sense. Who would want to walk to work from Punggol to Jurong, if all 'deadly' mode of transportations would to be banned.

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« Reply #38 on: May 10, 2007, 09:26:14 AM »

Please take no offense:
Sad to say, smoking is not a necessity unlike eating and driving to work. Except the latter (driving) is slowly killing the environment and smoking the end-user. It is not that we (non-smokers) are intolerance of smokers, but how does smoking in one's home, but exhaling out of the flat into a common airspace shared by many, not irritate others. In a nutshell, it is not necessary to smoke to hold a job, own a flat or etc. Smoking is a vice that is more of a bad personal choice that is detrimental to the smoker's health. Thus  sharing cigarette smoke is more of an unwanted intrusion into a non-smoker's personal airspace.

As for car fatal accidents, like most other transportation systems, accidents resulting in death is part and parcel of it. Banning something that is the basic foundation of day to day living would not make sense. Who would want to walk to work from Punggol to Jurong, if all 'deadly' mode of transportations would to be banned.


Very well put - couldn't agree more with H2Oseekers
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« Reply #39 on: May 10, 2007, 10:18:18 AM »

Yah... couldn't agree more with H2OSeekers... really, it boils down to the intrusion of into a common airspace that we all share... the dangers of secondary smoke are well documented. Did you know that smoking pregnant mothers have a higher chance of miscarriage? And that babies born to heavy smokers or mothers expose to secondary smoke have smaller brains and thus intellectually less alert?

Let's take drinking as another example. You can drink within reason, too much and you will cause harm to your body, but if you drive and get into a car and knock (or kill) someone down, you will definitely go to jail? There are penalities for drunk and even reckless driving, but there are no penalties for exhaling secondary smoke which will harm others, but I think secondary smoke harms more ppl than drunk driving...

Think I recall somewhere that a group of co-workers took a class action suit against another employee to court in the US for smoking and exposing them to secondary smoke and actually won the case. Can this be done in Singapore? I don't think so. So yes, tolerance is the name of the game today, but so is reasonable behaviour. If you see wet clothes hanging out in the kitchen, there is always the living room where you can smoke out off. If I don't like it, I can close the window...

Anyway, if a smoker thinks that smoking is ok, then why bother to smoke out of the window, unless
1) He doesn't want to pollute his own home (which makes it really bad that he wants to pollute others' property)
2) He thinks that it will harm the children/wife
3) The wife thinks that it will harm the children and ask him to smoke outside

Said a lot, but will end off here... If my dad didn't quit smoking 20 years ago. I think he would be dead by now from smoking for 10 years. He shared with me that only 15 years after he stopped smoking, can he begin to taste food for what it is really like... smoke 10 years and it took 15 years to recover his taste buds. What more irrepairable damage to the lungs, heart and other vital organs.

Puffy frog - pls take care of your health. Money cannot buy it back

Sincerely, with only concern for my fellow human being,

Tigger
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